Raingutter Regatta

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Derby Master Notes - How to run the Rain Gutter Regatta

Determine and book the location - Do this in September when date is final.

  • 2012: Bond shelter near the lake. Shelter was adequate size. Bored Scouts roamed the landscape and there was no play facilities nearby. Did have water tap nearby.
  • 2013: White Oak Park. Good location, playground nearby. Shelter is a little small for 4 sets of gutters if there is bad weather.
  • 2014: Kiwanis Shelter at Bond Park. Good location. Giant shelter, but also used for Year-End Picnic. Fireplace can be used if it's cold, and it was great. Need 75+ feet of hose to reach in to the shelter and fill gutters. 32 participants.
  • 2015: Kiwanis Bond. 26 participants. Sunday.
  • 2016
  • 2017 North Cary Park
  • 2018 North Cary Park
    • 21 participants
    • Met at storage locker (James Jackson) at 8:15
    • Check in at 9:30, races at 10
    • Two people set everything up; a third would have been good.
    • Everything back in storage locker by noon.


Publish flyer ~6 weeks in advance with announcement on web site.

  • Update with date, time, and location. Everything else should be OK.
  • Webmaster posts it.


Call for volunteers. Send out the Sign-up Genius 3 or 4 weeks out.

  • Gutter pick-up and return (needs truck or trailer). 
  • Set-up help (2-4 people). Moving tables, assembling gutter stands and filling. Arrive 30-45min prior to check-in start.
  • Can use check-in help if you want; derby master has done this in the past.
  • Need 4 Bracketologists to help keep brackets updated. Helps to have one per rank. Need to run through how this works and be comfortable with it.
  • Data entry of judging sheet info. Volunteer for this so DM/ADM can circulate and check on issues.


Prep - week of Regatta

  • Prep work:
    • Prepare spreadsheet to get familiar with it (TODO: attach spreadsheet here)
    • Print out rank signs for "marina"
    • Print out 5 judging sheets per rank
    • Print out collections of blank brackets (TODO: link to source)
    • Print out number labels for checkin/judging
      • This is nice and all, but really in 2018 I just used small stickers and a numbering system based on ranks...e.g. the first tiger registrant was "T1", the second "T2", and so on.  These were hand-written on small price labels.  It worked fine.

Regatta day - What To Bring

  • From storage unit:
    • Gutters (4 sets)
    • Gutter stands (4 sets; each has two end pieces and one set of X-shaped rails made of 1x2)
    • Easels for brackets (2)
  • From scout closet at FUMC:
    • Clipboards for judging
    • Pens
    • Pack banner
    • Flag
    • Easel if it's there
  • From personal collections
    • Extension cord and outlet strip (if needed to run PC during the event)
    • PC for running spreadsheets. Load the spreadsheets on the PC before leaving the house!
    • Printed judging sheets
    • Printed labels, or small price stickers and a sharpie
    • Garden hose (probably two depending on site)
    • Sprayer head or valve for end of hose
    • Pliers or hose bibb key
    • Binder clips, clamps, or tape to hold brackets on easels (should just get some clips and put them on the easels)
    • Pool noodle and solo cups for impromptu boat assembly. Sometimes a new scout shows up without a boat.


Running the races

  • Directions on running the races using brackets & spreadsheets are included in the Excel doc in the zip file here.
  • From 2013 on, we have done double-elimination tournaments in order to simplify the running and reduce the "choke point" of the derby software.
    • Don't have brackets be too big. In 2014, we separated Wolf and Bear with improved results (though there were only 5 Bears.. so we could have combined). Do a survey to see how many plan to attend?
      • For small groups (< 8?) running round-robin style works out well. Derby software can handle this or gin up a spreadsheet. The boys get to race more this way and it should produce clear results.
    • Easels in the storage unit are for displaying the brackets, which can be printed up to 11x17 landscape size. A 16-seed double-elimination fits fairly well on two letter-sized pages in landscape mode, and those will fit on the easel as well.
    • In order to be totally fair, the brackets should be customized to the number of entries. There are web sites with PDF versions of brackets of all sizes. Download a whole library and then print the appropriate-sized bracket. Brackets included in .zip file.
    • For fairness, scouts should be seeded into the brackets (especially if there are not 2^n entries, someone will have a bye). This should be done randomly and transparently. Bingo balls would be a fun way to do it but would create a choke point unless you had 4 sets of balls, one for each rank group. A spreadsheet column with a random number would work too.
    • Could also do this with a pre-printed bracket and "BYE" entries in the spreadsheet, it just wouldn't look as clean. The BYE entries would also need to be random-seeded into the bracket to make things balanced. This is not guaranteed to be as fair as the custom-sized bracket.
  • 2017, 2018 tweaks:
    • "Seeded" tournament based on checkin time.  That is, the first wolf registrant was seeded #1 in the Wolf division, and so on.  Fed these into standard double elimination brackets available online.
    • Combined ranks as needed to get a reasonable number of participants (e.g. 2018: 2 wolves and 3 bears combined into one division.)  In this case, we raced them all in one bracket, but we still awarded prizes within a rank -- so the fastest wolf and bear in the example above would both get a first place ribbon, even though only one of them could have won the bracket.